Sadpanda purge
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| Creation Date | 2014-07-24 |
| Discovery Date | 2022-09-16 |
The side history of the purgatory of /a/nons' favorite Alexandria Library of Hentai Doujin and Manga, E-Hentai.
What is Sad Panda actually? What happened to its gallery being purged?
Note: The timeline for this section will be referred to July, 2014.
To put in simple terms, up until now there were almost no eromanga that got translated into English (or other languages). This is the main, constant issue as with all other "pirated" Japanese media, hentai or not. Works are never translated, fans (had to) take up the mantle and translate it themselves, creating a market. That's where E-Hentai (called "sadpanda" by anons over /a/) comes, i.e a website that hosts thousands - if not millions - of user-uploaded eromanga, translated or not; ranging from quick-read quick-fap doujins up to full-sized tankoubon. What do you want to read and fap to, chance are they already been uploaded to Sad Panda gallery.
That is the thing, until Fakku recently acquired rights to translations from a Japanese eromanga publisher, Wanimagazine. Wanimagazine has targetted Sad Panda, with takedown notices and are forcing them to delete fan-translated eromanga from artists that Wanimagazine publishers for, and possibly even eromanga to which they do not have rights to i.e only created by artists who work under Wanimagazine, but not published by Wanimagazine itself. Along with this frustration, large portions of the Community that contributes to and reads eromanga on E-hentai are furious that 'Sadpanda' is even being told to delete eromanga with questionable copyright claims, or face having to be involved in legal action.
/a/non's anger and little excerpt of Fakku's origin
Some would think it's only the inability to obtain the content is what pisses off /a/nons, but there's more to it. What really pisses /a/ off is that: for those who don't know, Fakku also originally started as a site that 'illegally' hosted fan translated eromanga and only recently (around 2014) decided to become 'legal', buying the rights to some of those translations. Now they are basically using their allies in Japan to get a competitive advantage in the English-speaking community by also targeting series they "might like to buy" even though they do not own the rights to them.
Added confusion
With that being said, /a/nons didn't know if the cause of this problem is only Wanimagazine or if Fakku themselves are involved. Fakku has stated that they are not involved with the conflict but they have no evidence against it aside from their word.
Collage of Commentaries and Vignettes of /a/nons' Voices
Daiz !H.264BdrFs Sat 26 Jul 2014 03:20:47 No.111022132
>>111021572
>1) What exactly is going on?
Wanimagazine seems to have sent Sadpanda some extra takedown notices resulting in deleted galleries.
>What roles exactly do Jacob and Wani play in this whole thing?
Wani sent out takedown notices a good while back on their own to various sites, including both FAKKU and Sadpanda. The latter hid some of the galleries in the secret secret club, while Jacob (creator of the former) got in touch with Wani about working together. This resulted in the publishing deal FAKKU got with Wani.
Wani most likely sent those extra takedown notices because Sadpanda didn't actually delete things, just hid them from some people. Neither FAKKU nor Jacob was involved in the whole thing as FAKKU only cares about its own legit releases as far as takedowns are considered (and there have been none yet).
Daiz !H.264BdrFs Fri 25 Jul 2014 16:51:26 No.111027542
>>111026385
FAKKU books won't have any DRM in digital downloads. The contract allows them to do that, and that's what FAKKU is going to do.
Of course, that only applies for individual titles that you buy - if there's a catalog rental model that you can subscribe to ala Netflix, CR, etc, that'll restrict you to online-only reading with no DRM-free downloading. But nothing's going to stop you from doing both, rent the catalog for general usage, buy individual titles from artists you really like.
>>111027141
The context for that is that I've been talking with Jacob a lot ever since the announcement of the Wani deal, because I'd really like for FAKKU to do things properly and realize the potential the deal has. I'm not being paid anything at this point, but feel free to consider me an unofficial FAKKU PR person regardless.
Daiz !H.264BdrFs Fri 25 Jul 2014 16:13:18 No.111025328
>>111025192
>Jacob has said the digital versions will likely be between $7-9.
Yeah, this is the same figure he gave me when we were talking about pricing a while back. I'd say it sounds about right for those 200+ page books, but could go quite a bit lower too for shorter content (though I'm not sure how much of that you're going to find in the Wani catalog).
Jacob !!/dfoe9H43CU Tue 24 Jun 2014 15:06:40 No.109282564
>>109282437
No one has rights to any doujins, including the artists that made them
>>109282471 >>109282479
I don't know who to believe.
Daiz !H.264BdrFs 07/25/14(Fri)15:44:22 No.111023633
>>111023288
>Well, I'm pretty mad, too, because FAKKU is absolute shit in all fields.
I considered FAKKU to be pretty useless too, because sadpanda exists. Well, I still consider it pretty useless right now because nothing has really changed yet, but the Wani deal has absolutely enormous potential. FAKKU has all the cards to build an incredible service, and if those cards are played right the result should be pretty amazing. And it'll be available for everyone capable of paying since the deal is worldwide, so there will be no fucking region lock bullshit involved.
Anonymous Sat 26 Jul 2014 03:58:38 No.111024489
Guys, I think that Jacob is being jewed by the nips. I don't think he's a liar. I think he's a fucking idiot.
Anonymous Sat 26 Jul 2014 04:01:14 No.111024656
>>111024489
This. Wani just took advantage of their relationship with him and are passing these take-down notices to every English site they can. Jacob can pick up the remains of the market with his officially licensed stuff, but the whole point is to eradicate the illegal translation and scanning groups. They think it's more money for them, not Fakku.
Anonymous Sat 26 Jul 2014 04:03:57 No.111024817
>>111024656
I actually think they lied to him, and told him that they were giving more money to the artists than they were, and he didn't read the contract carefully because he's retarded.
