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Note: This article was originally written by one author (Ninjasr) for their personal wiki. <del>The original can be found [http://ninjasr.heliohost.org/w/lb/cw_discord here]</del> The original article was deleted, leaving this as the only copy. The former plan to rewrite the article has been abandoned and there is currently no plan to expand or rewrite the article.
= Cube World Discord Server =


= Cube World Discord Server =
Note: This article was originally written by one author (Ninjasr) for their personal wiki. The original can be found [[http://ninjasr.heliohost.org/w/lb/cw_discord here]]. A rewriting process will occur at some point but for now, this serves as a decent base. Those interested in editing the article should discuss what they wish to change on the talk page first.


The Cube World discord server is the official discord server for Cube World, at least I think it is?
The Cube World discord server is the official discord server for Cube World, at least I think it is?
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The combination of these two things led to moderators muting people for not liking the game<ref>Although I might be misremembering. The rules were redone to disallow "bait" and since the release was so divisive this meant basically any critique could be defined as "bait". I don't think anyone was banned for saying the game was shit though.</ref>. Helpers were also sent in to help here, muting people. During this time, I told the other helpers to ignore the off-topic channels and that I'd take care of them. I became the de-facto moderator of all those channels<ref>Although said announcement was largely ignored by my helper friends. The real reason I maintained control was due to a combination of luck and apathy on the side of the moderators.</ref>, I maintained this position until a certain something happened.
The combination of these two things led to moderators muting people for not liking the game<ref>Although I might be misremembering. The rules were redone to disallow "bait" and since the release was so divisive this meant basically any critique could be defined as "bait". I don't think anyone was banned for saying the game was shit though.</ref>. Helpers were also sent in to help here, muting people. During this time, I told the other helpers to ignore the off-topic channels and that I'd take care of them. I became the de-facto moderator of all those channels<ref>Although said announcement was largely ignored by my helper friends. The real reason I maintained control was due to a combination of luck and apathy on the side of the moderators.</ref>, I maintained this position until a certain something happened.


Confusion also arose surrounding the Helpers. The users themselves thought Helpers were tech support rather than meant to help the moderators. This confusion was rarely cleared up, so the tech support channel had a lot of users pinging Helpers<ref>Which annoyed me a lot. Every time this happened, I'd complain about the ping and tell the user that Helpers aren't there to help them and then I'd leave.</ref>. Also, due to a combination of fears and suggestions from that one person, Helpers gradually began loosing power<ref>The first sign of this was a change in how Helpers were chosen. Moderators no longer had "personal" Helpers and I don't know how they picked them afterwards. Then they couldn't talk in muted chat anymore.</ref><ref>Mods were scared Helpers would abuse their power since they weren't recruited in the same way mods were. This wasn't completely unfounded as even I dicked around with people's nicks as a Helper. Interestingly though, Mods abused their power more than any Helper ever did.</ref>. This was around the time a lot of my friends left the position and even left the server, they were frustrated with how the Helpers were treated.
Confusion also arose surrounding the Helpers. The users themselves thought Helpers were tech support rather than meant to help the moderators. This confusion was rarely cleared up, so the tech support channel had a lot of users pinging Helpers((Which annoyed me a lot. Every time this happened, I'd complain about the ping and tell the user that Helpers aren't there to help them and then I'd leave.)). Also, due to a combination of fears and suggestions from that one person, Helpers gradually began loosing power((The first sign of this was a change in how Helpers were chosen. Moderators no longer had "personal" Helpers and I don't know how they picked them afterwards. Then they couldn't talk in muted chat anymore.))((Mods were scared Helpers would abuse their power since they weren't recruited in the same way mods were. This wasn't completely unfounded as even I dicked around with people's nicks as a Helper. Interestingly though, Mods abused their power more than any Helper ever did.)). This was around the time a lot of my friends left the position and even left the server, they were frustrated with how the Helpers were treated.\\
 
Most Helpers didn't really do anything((Such as myself)) because there was a super hard worker among us((Who is now the admin of the server.)). When we //did// do something a mod that never did anything((In relation to actual moderation)) would come in and criticize that action, saying it was an abuse of power((This was mostly because the server rules were incredibly vague. Especially the "bait" one, so mods, Helpers and users all disagreed on what the rules //were// which lead to conflict.)). A lot of Helpers left because of shit like that.\\
Most Helpers didn't really do anything<ref>Such as myself</ref> because there was a super hard worker among us<ref>Who is now the admin of the server.</ref>. When we ''did'' do something a mod that never did anything<ref>In relation to actual moderation</ref> would come in and criticize that action, saying it was an abuse of power<ref>This was mostly because the server rules were incredibly vague. Especially the "bait" one, so mods, Helpers and users all disagreed on what the rules ''were'' which lead to conflict.</ref>. A lot of Helpers left because of shit like that.
There was "open" hostility between the regulars, users and the mods. It wasn't nearly as dramatic as it sounds - it was more like 5 disgruntled guys yelling((Only 2 of them are actually yelling though, the other 3 are moral support)) at 3 other guys((Only 1 of whom actually cared)). Well, that's what it was like between the Regulars/Helpers and the Moderators. General CW discussion was a shitstorm and I never went there((Well... I did ask the other helpers to occasionally tell me who to mute so I did at least something. This lead to some pretty funny and embarrassing moments when I failed to mute someone. Or very tense moments where I got a lot of shit for muting someone.)).\\
 
A lot of the regular users started to leave, they had gotten sick of the intensified moderation or become disillusioned with CW. Some of them left for the CCMR, which gained a bad reputation among the Moderators.\\
There was "open" hostility between the regulars, users and the mods. It wasn't nearly as dramatic as it sounds - it was more like 5 disgruntled guys yelling<ref>Only 2 of them are actually yelling though, the other 3 are moral support</ref> at 3 other guys<ref>Only 1 of whom actually cared</ref>. Well, that's what it was like between the Regulars/Helpers and the Moderators. General CW discussion was a shitstorm and I never went there<ref>Well... I did ask the other helpers to occasionally tell me who to mute so I did at least something. This lead to some pretty funny and embarrassing moments when I failed to mute someone. Or very tense moments where I got a lot of shit for muting someone.</ref>.
Eventually, everything slowed down. At this point even I, who had been pretty loyal to the server up to this point, started expressing dissatisfaction with the state of the server. I had been saying that I wanted to leave and well yeah shit.\\
 
Eventually, I got in trouble with the Moderators((Up to this point I only had two things going against me. 1 - I had linked the cracked version of the game to a user who asked for it in tech-support. (although I never actually said I did that, I dm'd it to him and the mods assumed I didn't actually link it. Hehe, I did though.) 2 - I ran the CCMR, which was not a good thing for me at this point.)). What I did was violate the rule about linking other discord servers. Yes, really. I had been doing it since the CCMR was born, but never got in trouble because I abused a loophole. I wasn't allowed to advertise a //server// but I could advertise a //group//((Those who think you can get away with it now, you can't.)). A moderator((One of those who barely did any moderation)) pointed it out and I got into trouble. I claimed I was in the ok since the previous admin allowed it, the new mods didn't like it though. They acknowledged the loophole as "legitimate" but said I shouldn't abuse loopholes as a helper. Logically, I asked if giving up my helper role would allow me to continue advertising - I got no clear answer. I decided to stop the advertisement anyway. Then I lost my Helper role, so I took that as a yes to my previous question. I was pretty mad and it was the first time I went against moderation in the server((Directly at least)), so I got banned.
A lot of the regular users started to leave, they had gotten sick of the intensified moderation or become disillusioned with CW. Some of them left for the CCMR, which gained a bad reputation among the Moderators.
==== Intermission: Lull ====
 
I don't know what happened while I was banned, I was gone from the server for about a year.\\
Eventually, everything slowed down. At this point even I, who had been pretty loyal to the server up to this point, started expressing dissatisfaction with the state of the server. I had been saying that I wanted to leave and well yeah shit.
I heard from a friend that the admin changed and that he had rejoined. So I decided to rejoin just because.\\
 
Eventually, I got in trouble with the Moderators<ref>Up to this point I only had two things going against me. 1 - I had linked the cracked version of the game to a user who asked for it in tech-support. (although I never actually said I did that, I dm'd it to him and the mods assumed I didn't actually link it. Hehe, I did though.) 2 - I ran the CCMR, which was not a good thing for me at this point.</ref>. What I did was violate the rule about linking other discord servers. Yes, really. I had been doing it since the CCMR was born, but never got in trouble because I abused a loophole. I wasn't allowed to advertise a ''server'' but I could advertise a ''group''<ref>Those who think you can get away with it now, you can't.</ref>. A moderator<ref>One of those who barely did any moderation</ref> pointed it out and I got into trouble. I claimed I was in the ok since the previous admin allowed it, the new mods didn't like it though. They acknowledged the loophole as "legitimate" but said I shouldn't abuse loopholes as a helper. Logically, I asked if giving up my helper role would allow me to continue advertising - I got no clear answer. I decided to stop the advertisement anyway. Then I lost my Helper role, so I took that as a yes to my previous question. I was pretty mad and it was the first time I went against moderation in the server<ref>Directly at least</ref>, so I got banned.
 
=== Intermission: Lull ===
 
I don't know what happened while I was banned, I was gone from the server for about a year.
 
I heard from a friend that the admin changed and that he had rejoined. So I decided to rejoin just because.
 
Now, obviously stuff happened in the CCMR. I won't get into that stuff in detail because I consider the CCMR a private server. Summarized though, I became a dictator and caused a schism. This schism lasts until today. However, I'm on good-ish terms with those from the other server. <del>I hope I can re-unite the two, but that's probably impossible at this point.</del> I've since come to the conclusion that re-uniting is neither feasible nor desirable, the current split is actually much better for both sides.
Now, obviously stuff happened in the CCMR. I won't get into that stuff in detail because I consider the CCMR a private server. Summarized though, I became a dictator and caused a schism. This schism lasts until today. However, I'm on good-ish terms with those from the other server. <del>I hope I can re-unite the two, but that's probably impossible at this point.</del> I've since come to the conclusion that re-uniting is neither feasible nor desirable, the current split is actually much better for both sides.
 
==== Chapter 3: Rebirth ====
=== Chapter 3: Rebirth ===
After rejoining the server, I was met with a culture that was completely unrecognizable. I still recognized most of the regulars but the way they spoke was different. Moderation is not as strict anymore, you can discuss porn again. Counting is soldiering on((One of my "pupils" is now the head count mod and he continues to moderate it. He does it pretty well too. Not sure if he's the only active one though.)). Sacrifices returned((I forgot to mention it was closed after the release.)). Stuff is generally back to how it was before release. I got back in touch with some of my friends((Especially those who didn't join the CCMR.)) and yeah.\\
 
After rejoining the server, I was met with a culture that was completely unrecognizable. I still recognized most of the regulars but the way they spoke was different. Moderation is not as strict anymore, you can discuss porn again. Counting is soldiering on<ref>One of my "pupils" is now the head count mod and he continues to moderate it. He does it pretty well too. Not sure if he's the only active one though.</ref>. Sacrifices returned<ref>I forgot to mention it was closed after the release.</ref>. Stuff is generally back to how it was before release. I got back in touch with some of my friends<ref>Especially those who didn't join the CCMR.</ref> and yeah.
 
Helpers don't exist anymore, only as a legacy role that barely anyone has.
Helpers don't exist anymore, only as a legacy role that barely anyone has.
Stuff is nice.
Stuff is nice.
 
===== Notes =====
== Notes ==
The server shouldn't really be taken as a "public" discord server. The community((By this I mean the regulars, helpers and moderators)) was very tight-nit((And they remain tight-nit.)). Not everyone was friends with everyone obviously, but it was still pretty nice. The (general) lack of moderation means it doesn't have an "oppressive" atmosphere like other servers do.\\
The server shouldn't really be taken as a "public" discord server. The community<ref>By this I mean the regulars, helpers and moderators</ref> was very tight-nit<ref>And they remain tight-nit.</ref>. Not everyone was friends with everyone obviously, but it was still pretty nice. The (general) lack of moderation means it doesn't have an "oppressive" atmosphere like other servers do.


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If I do end up creating archives, and ''if'' I decide to release them - I'll end up anonymizing it all.
If I do end up creating archives, and //if// I decide to release them - I'll end up anonymizing it all.
 
== Trivilinks ==
== Trivilinks ==
* [[https://discord.gg/VwXchqtbDA|An invite to the server]]
* [[https://discord.gg/VwXchqtbDA|An invite to the server]]
* Again, there's little hostility between myself and the mods and regulars from before.
* Again, there's little hostility between myself and the mods and regulars from before.
* I'll probably rewrite this article, or I'll move it to the Bibliotheca Anonoma so other regulars can edit the history with me. - I would need permission from the guys in charge there first though.
* I'll probably rewrite this article, or I'll move it to the Bibliotheca Anonoma so other regulars can edit the history with me. - I would need permission from the guys in charge there first though.
* I maintained the position of Count mod right up until I got banned. I'm still waiting to get it back btw.
* I maintained the position of Count mod right up until I got banned. I'm still waiting to get it back btw.
* Similarly, I remained the de-facto mod of the off-topic channels until I got banned.
    * Similarly, I remained the de-facto mod of the off-topic channels until I got banned.
* Thanks to that, the off-topic channels were generally ignored and, as a result, had looser moderation.
      * Thanks to that, the off-topic channels were generally ignored and, as a result, had looser moderation.
* I forgot to mention this, but post-release a thread about CW appeared on /v/. In that thread, they were all laughing about how shit it was - not unusual. Someone discovered the server though, posted an invite and suggested a raid. The raid ''might'' have been successful, but it might not have since everyone was shitposting about the shit game. It's just kinda funny.
* I forgot to mention this, but post-release a thread about CW appeared on /v/. In that thread, they were all laughing about how shit it was - not unusual. Someone discovered the server though, posted an invite and suggested a raid. The raid ''might'' have been successful, but it might not have since everyone was shitposting about the shit game. It's just kinda funny.
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